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Should You Do Your Own Taxes? (and Why I Don’t)

mustachian_eagleI’ve always been a do-it-yourself guy, and will remain so as long as I’m alive. The reason is not money savings but the fundamental recipe for human happiness: you must remain challenged and keep learning throughout your lifetime. People who miss this recipe end up chasing ever more desperately after passive entertainments and pleasures. But they never find the happiness, because it was in the other direction.

So of course, I’ve always done my own taxes. Starting at age fifteen, I remember filling out my cute little T-1 tax form back in Canada – working through the single piece of newsprint with a pencil and eraser and a hand calculator. Throughout those teenage years, I enjoyed taking deductions for education and moving expenses and rent and relishing every dollar that I got to keep.

Later I got a fancy adult job and had to deal with higher income, deductions for the retirement account, and capital gains and losses from my early attempts at stock investing. I moved to another country and had to allocate that year’s income between the two different tax systems, and nip the little attempts each country made to grab extra taxes from the accounts of the other one. I bought a house in the US and marveled at the tax deductible nature of mortgage interest and property taxes. Started a business and noticed the huge, complex range of tax options that suddenly opened up. Quit the day job and noticed how taxes suddenly cease to matter, because the US government becomes very forgiving to you if you’re bringing in under $50,000 per year, even if you’re actually a millionaire.

At this point in the story, we hit 2011 – the year that low-key Pete the retired Engineer/Carpenter/Dad started to type some shit into the computer, unwittingly transforming himself into Mr. Money Mustache, Notable Finance and Lifestyle Guru. Things were looking up as our boy was getting older, expensive early business mistakes had been resolved, and both Mr. and Mrs. MM started to make more money in our post-retirement hobbies. Suddenly, we had taxable income again.

I kept doing my own taxes as if it were 2010, but the increasingly favorable life conditions meant my tax bill was growing exponentially. This didn’t concern me too much, because it also meant my after-tax income (which was 100% unnecessary anyway – our living expenses are already more than covered by investments) was growing at a similar pace. You have way more money than you could possibly spend, and you’re paying a lot of tax. Only an angry ideologue would consider this a bad situation. I decided not to be one of those guys, and instead keep the energy focused only within my circle of control.

However, things kept getting better every year, and several Mustachians (many of whom are accountants) started needling me to improve upon my inefficient tax situation. I knew it could be done, but I was already very happy with life and making full use of my waking hours with a huge backlog of interesting things to learn and do. Did I really want to shut down some of these things in order to reorganize my taxes, in order to add even more unnecessary money to my accounts? I made a mental note to improve the situation, but only if the right opportunity ever came up.

Enter Tax Man

Keith passionately hijacks a session on taxes at Camp Mustache, Seattle, May 2015

Keith passionately hijacks a session on taxes at Camp Mustache, Seattle, May 2015

Eventually that opportunity arrived. At a weekend gathering of Mustachians, I met an accountant that was genuinely passionate about the field, in the same way I am passionate about building stuff. Keith Schroeder likes optimizing taxes so much that he does it even when he doesn’t need the money. He runs the same Wisconsin accounting firm he’s had forever, biking down the country roads to his office and dispensing Mustachian life lessons to his employees whenever the chance arises. To me, this is a trust-inspiring place from which to start a business relationship, because you are less likely to get into a fight over who gets which dollar bills*.

So I handed over my financial laundry pile to Keith to see what he would come up with. The results were highly worthwhile, and here are just a few of them:

Changing my LLC from a Partnership to an S-Corporation

When you start a small business, you bring in some money from your customers,  you spend a (hopefully) small amount of it on computers, restaurants, airplanes and taxis, your mobile phone and internet service, and so on. What’s left over is the profit, which normally flows straight down to your personal income tax return. Because you’re self employed, you have to pay a full 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare fees right off the top of this income, then go on to pay federal and state taxes on that same income. A pretty big bite. Unless you do this:

Figure 1: Saving $6 grand by switching to an S-corp

Figure 1: Saving $6 grand by switching to an S-corp. (Note: I assumed a 25% combined federal/state tax rate throughout this article just to keep things simple).

When you reorganize to an S-corporation, your company makes the profit and you are just an employee (and owner) of the company. The company can pay you a “reasonable” salary, and then hand you the rest of the income as a “dividend”, which is exempt from this 15.3% tax.

The bottom line is that re-organizing to an S-Corp can save your company about $6,000 for each $100,000 of gross profit.

When Income Inequality is a Good Thing

Mrs. MM and I are joint owners of our LLC. Until recently, were simply splitting the income from this entity equally. This meant that if we made enough money, we would both be required to pay Social Security up to the limit ($118,500 of income per person). However, our activities for the company brought in drastically different amounts of money. Since my side includes this blog which is over 75% of the company’s income, it was justifiable to make my “salary” higher so that some of it fell into the “Over $118k” portion that escapes above the limit of Social Security contributions. Her salary is lower but fully taxable. Here’s an example of how this works with a hypothetical 2-person company making $200,000:

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Figure 2: Different pay split saves $7626 per year

These are just two examples of tricks that the accountant brought in, and there are many more including having the business lease an office within your house, making the most of the powerful SEP IRA options open to business owners (you can contribute up to $53,000 per person per year!) and more. Keith even founded a Wisconsin branch of my LLC to allow the blog to at last become an Amazon affiliate. The savings or income from any one of these tweaks should be more than enough to cover his accounting fees for the year, which is exactly how hiring an accountant is supposed to work.

The Downsides of Complexity and Cost

The improvements above are saving me some serious money, but they come at the cost of some added complexity. When you change your simple business to an S-corp with employees, suddenly you have to “do payroll”, meaning you write a monthly set of checks to each employee and to the state and federal government. There’s also the nonsense of “unemployment insurance” and even “worker’s compensation insurance”. My accountant thankfully helped me opt out of the second thing (why would I expect to get paid if I injure myself while working for myself?), but the first is mandatory (so I can continue to get paid if I lose my job working for myself!)

My new accountant is handling all of the paperwork, but there are still emails and phone calls to answer occasionally, forms to sign, and obviously the cost of paying his firm to do all this work – roughly $2000 in the first year including the reorganization work, $1200 in ongoing years.  A good investment given my current situation, but maybe not in 2010 when income was lower and business was simpler.

So, should you do your own taxes or not?

The average person has a single job, lives in a single house or apartment, and does not own a side business. In this situation, taxes are extremely simple and it is hard to get it wrong – especially if you use automated tax software like TurboTax, TaxAct, or Keith’s preference 1040.com. Canadians might check out SimpleTax or StudioTax. If you are mathematically inclined and enjoy the process, I think filing your own tax return is a beneficial and empowering do-it-yourself activity.

The average Mustachian is more likely to have rental properties or side businesses, and at this level the decision is more of a toss-up: doing your own work brings great benefits, and you can do the job to perfection if you make a point of it. But if you’re not at least somewhat passionate about the work, it is easy to miss some details and cost yourself some money.  I feel there’s no shame in hiring out your taxes in this case, since you’re building a new business relationship and the service will effectively cost you less than zero.

People like me are even better candidates for tax outsourcing: despite my earlier interest in DIY tax hacking and a love of spreadsheets and calculators, more recent complacency meant I was still missing out on a lot of the finer points. Doing my own business taxes instead of hiring an accountant was costing me over $10,000 per year and not giving me a proportional boost in life skills or satisfaction. As your income and business complexity rises, your tax abilities need to grow in parallel. If they don’t, outsource it and put the saved time and energy into going out for more walks instead.

Is Mr. Money Mustache Out to Lunch?

I’ve been hesitant to admit to you that I ended up outsourcing my taxes. Given the stories (and excuses) above, what do you think? Is tax accounting outsourcing practical? Or Wussypants, like the outsourcing of your gardening and lawn care work?

I’m enjoying working with this new helper in my life, and the higher net income is worthwhile as well. But I don’t want this reliance on another person to shut down my old tax brain entirely, leaving me reliant on professional help to make even the smallest decisions. But so far, so good: thanks to the last six months of working with this accounting firm, I’m feeling more tax-savvy than ever.  I wish you similar good fortune this tax season.

 

Footnotes:

* note that the  same effects come up in couple relationships – things are much better if you’re not fighting over money.

When I first wrote this article, I mentioned that Keith Schroeder was willing to take on even more clients at his firm called Tax Prep and Accounting Services. After about 12,000 inquiries, he took on as many new clients as he could (over 200), and had to close the flood afterwards. Next year we will gather several willing accountants to share the work.

Since just running an accounting firm and doing tax work for hundreds of people is not enough, Keith also writes a blog called The Wealthy Accountant.

I receive no payment from any of the recommendations in this article, I just think they are useful. However I did provide Keith’s affiliate link for 1040.com tax software since it costs us nothing and will benefit his firm.

  • Maury February 18, 2016, 9:36 am

    I have almost an identical tax setup, though I think most readers would find a solo 401k to be much easier than an SEP-IRA. In most circumstances you can contribute more — sometimes much more — to an individual 401(k) than you could contribute to a SEP IRA. Schwab allows you to set one up for free.

    Otherwise, great advice… I often kid I spend a lot of time working at not working and my taxes are one area that is definitely true.

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  • Tim February 21, 2016, 11:16 am

    I don’t know if anyone else mentioned this but it’s very difficult if you have employees in an s-Corp to contribute the max to a 401k so an LLC can give you a way to save the $53k because you’re showing all your expenses then deducting. With an s-Corp I’ve been stuck with 18k because you’re showing less income. Solo 401ks I think are the best if you have no employees–also a lot less hassle. Just a major difference between the two structures that I learned through experience.

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    • Keith Schroeder February 21, 2016, 4:09 pm

      Consider setting up a second single member LLC/S Corp that consults for your first LLC.

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  • Dan Murray February 22, 2016, 4:00 am

    Good advice. Once upon a time I was an accountant but that life got boring so I decided to do something else. My wife has dine (our sometimes complicated) return for years and probably not as we’ll as a pro can do. The side benefit of this arrangement is not having to listen to her complain about the mistakes the tax accountant makes (that happened the one year we outsourcer the return. Nobody cares as much as oneself in these matters.

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  • Brian Wilga February 22, 2016, 7:07 pm

    Has anyone worked with a CPA, whose office is in the Portland/Vancouver area, and understands both the MMM lifestyle and investing in rental properties? [Moderator: I misspelled my name in the previous post!]

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  • James In Denver February 24, 2016, 9:05 am

    The thing I’ve noticed and been disappointed with when hiring my taxes out is that the preparer asks you all the same questions TurboTax asks you, meaning it’s just as much work. For example, you still have to tell them (usually by entering into a spreadsheet) the amount of insurance you paid on your rental property last year. TurboTax asks you the exact same question, but when you’re done answering questions in TurboTax, you click submit and your are done. With a tax preparer you still have to wait weeks for them to file for you.

    I definitely see the value in having a second, expert set of eyes looking at things, especially for the big picture decisions (like whether or not to set up a company), but it is not much less work to hire someone to “do” your taxes.

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    • Roland February 24, 2016, 1:18 pm

      Agreed. It seems like a waste of time. (We did our taxes last weekend, refunds deposited this morn. Done.)

      Having used TurboTax for many years now, it is really helpful and it gets better every year. The price has remained remarkably affordable over the years.

      As TurboTax matures even more, I wouldn’t be surprised if they create an algorithm that can propose the solution in the above article. (Maybe it can already) They do similar things now as you enter the data.

      Personally, some things I just like to do myself no matter what, taxes is one of them. Software programs like this make crazy people like me with trust issues sleep better at night. :)

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  • Billy February 24, 2016, 9:31 am

    So, did anyone try out Fishback Tax service? If so how did it go?

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  • Greg February 24, 2016, 3:43 pm

    While I think Str8cash32 earlier overstated his case much earlier in this comment thread, I see his point. It does seem a bit disingenuous for MMM to criticize people for not doing things which are both difficult and, in some cases, dangerous, then hire someone to do his taxes. With roof work, for example, I know two people who fell off of roofs while working on them, one died, the other, the professional contractor, merely broke an arm. I know of nobody who was injured doing their own tax return. While I don’t think MMM’s use of a tax professional rises anywhere near the facepunch-worthy level, I think a case could be made that some people might be more suited to DIY in the area of home repairs, and others in the area of DIY taxes, depending on their background and enjoyment of each. Either one can be worthy of respect.

    What I do think is practically a necessity is for everyone to learn a little about a lot of fields. I’ve used accountants for taxes three times in two different states, when I started a side business then moved. One of them did come up with a tax strategy I don’t think I would have stumbled on, paying for private health insurance out of the proceeds of the business (I didn’t have a job with benefits at the time). I now use what they did to file my own taxes again, just as I’ve sometimes used what I learned from contractors to do my own minor repairs, while still hiring out more complex or dangerous jobs. Overall, I’ve found that there is no substitute for learning some solid basics about law, taxes, car repair, home repair, medicine, and more. That lets you do simple things yourself, and ask good questions and hire the right person when something is beyond your depth in that field. Otherwise, you waste a lot of money on the simple things, and you stand a good chance of hiring someone incompetent on the complex ones.

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    • Bill February 25, 2016, 10:46 am

      This is a very good answer. Learn a little about everything, specialize in a few things, always be learning and always be doing. The nitpicking about what we choose to farm out is unseemly. Next I’m going to refine my own gasoline I guess.

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  • Jonathan February 25, 2016, 9:33 am

    If you are doing your own taxes, I would recommend Free Fillable Forms. It is free for everyone at all income levels. More importantly, filling in actual tax forms teaches you the tax system, and helps you understand how your income and deductions are viewed by the IRS.

    I had a chat with a CPA the other day, and he told me that young accountants these days don’t really understand the tax system because they rely on software to do the work.

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  • MaryS February 25, 2016, 11:30 am

    One thing I would add about outsourcing your tax prep: if you’re not getting the results you want (within legal confines) I don’t understand keeping the person you hired. The relationship needs to benefit you, so if it doesn’t, terminate and seek a new pro.

    This happened to a friend – CPA said in July/August when they meet to do a mockup and make adjustments if needed, that everything was good and on target to have a small bill or refund. That all changed just 2-3 months later when the CPA goes, you’re going to owe 6k in taxes (and didn’t know what changed!). Last year was 4k and this year is 6k. My friend was upset, and I said obviously that relationship is not working. Find someone that will help you pay enough through the year, so the bill is not high (exactly what this CPA is paid but fails to do).

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  • Marie February 25, 2016, 6:10 pm

    Hey Mr Stache

    Still think you’re awesome. Been a reader since late 2012! Starting to hit 0 dollars in debt and saving 50 % of my income. Also starting to find ways to work outside of the office. Much happier thanks to you. Sincerely :)

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  • Joseph February 25, 2016, 9:45 pm

    Mr. MM
    First time reader, read through a handful of posts this evening. It is nice to know of someone who shares my sentiments re happy living, not wasting resources, basmati rice and black beans,etc. I’ve managed to get myself pretty discouraged over the last few years not having found anybody likeminded , but it seems there is a community out there. For now, your blog has given me a much-needed boost to my optimism and I’ll continue to read. Appreciate you sending good waves out into the world and I’ll do the same.

    Kind regards,
    Joe in Indiana

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  • Mark McCracken February 26, 2016, 11:19 am

    Just a quick review of 1040.com… I found the site to be frustrating and confusing. I’ve done our household taxes myself my whole life (except the one year where we moved from Illinois to Colorado – that was worth working with an accountant), but I ended up giving up on 1040.com. It gives very little descriptive advice, and is a pretty thin veneer over the tax forms. This may make it quicker to use for a tax professional, but it makes it a little tough to a taxpayer (how do I know if I need form 8829?). A couple of examples:

    1) I had a 1099-DIV from a REIT that was liquidated in 2015, and had a sizable number in boxes 8 & 9 (Cash and non-cash liquidation distributions). I could only expose those fields by clicking on the “Yes there were state taxes withheld” checkbox. There weren’t, so that’s a little baffling.

    2) Sometimes 1099-DIVs would let me enter the payer’s EIN, but only after saving the form and then editing it again. Sometimes that wouldn’t work, either. I think this was a Javascript error, because I would momentarily see the field before it disappeared.

    3) My employer pays me via my sole-member LLC and issues me a 1099-MISC, so I created a 401(k) with Vanguard a few years ago and have been maxing it out. This cuts my income dramatically, and is frankly even larger than my estimated taxes paid. It ends up on 1040 line 28, but I never managed to figure out how to enter it on 1040.com. This was the show-stopper that made me give up entirely.

    On the other hand, I was able to complete the return in a couple of hours with TaxACT, and didn’t do much in the way of hunting – it all seemed to flow pretty easily from my records into the interview.

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  • CharlesInAustin March 3, 2016, 10:38 am

    I paid $1K for my tax prep (via a CPA) last year. This year I am on an extended, pre-retirement sabbatical (hopefully forever). To learn more about federal taxes I am volunteering at a local non-profit — doing other peoples’ taxes!! It’s surprisingly stimulating, and one can learn a ton about how to take deductions and to position things in the future to minimize one’s tax liability. It’s also far more fulfilling than my former corporate job. Meeting other people who live in my community (with whom I’d normally not come into contact) has been both eye-opening and exciting. Try it if you can !!!

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  • John March 20, 2016, 2:38 pm

    MMM, I’ve tried tax accountants on and off over the years and was frustrated to find out sometimes the accountant missed a couple items on my returns. How to find one who’s good and you can trust?
    Best,
    John Downey

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  • Brandon May 22, 2016, 11:51 am

    This may be a bit off topic but as a 20 something Canadian expat making a Silicon Valley salary and living a frugal lifestyle I’m coming to the conclusion that there is very little I can do to shelter passive earnings from income tax. I don’t plan to stay in the US long enough to consider real estate, there is no company 401K and I make too much to contribute to a Roth IRA.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that all I can do is to use an IRA to shelter a measly $5500 a year but I wonder if that is even worthwhile because when I repatriate those funds I’ll pay 15% withholding tax plus 10% early redemption tax. I know that there will be a foreign tax credit but it will be useless unless I have sufficient sources of Canadian income in that tax year.

    In Canada I’d annually be able to shelter more than $25000 in an RRSP and $5500 in a TFSA so it doesn’t seem possible that in these most important early savings years most of my little green employees will be paying tax. Am I missing something? I was planning to just make PAD contributions to a Vanguard Target Retirement fund but maybe I’ ll have to seek out more tax advantaged investments.

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    • Mr. Money Mustache May 23, 2016, 6:09 am

      Hi Brandon, sounds tricky but there might still be a few options.

      For example, if you convert yourself into a contractor rather than an employee, you can then contribute much more (25% of profits) to a SEP or Solo 401(k). You could even incorporate as a Canadian company and just become an employee of that who happens to have an US contract. Option 3 is having your official residence in a state with low/no state income tax.

      In the end, though, it sounds like you are in a great situation. Living in Northern California and making good money in a great industry is almost as good as things get, in my opinion.

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    • Fei October 19, 2016, 11:47 am

      You can do a backdoor Roth contribution if you make too much:

      http://www.rothira.com/what-is-a-backdoor-roth-ira

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  • ChrisB June 7, 2016, 5:48 pm

    Love the blog!

    Seems amazing that we live in a time when you can start out writing about how to be the most frugal and then you end up with a ton of excess money coming your way. Great to see your intentions of putting it to good use and not succumbing to lifestyle inflation.

    Saving on Self Employment Tax is not a full saving though. Most people are in a zone for social security in which they get back 32% per month of averaged (over 420 months) contributions. (There is a full worksheet on the SSA website, you start off getting 90% back (below $856 monthly average), this reduces to 32% (>$856, $5157))

    In your example in which you save $6120 (less $2000 fees, net $4120), you reduce income that goes to SS by $40000. This reduces your final SS monthly payment by $30.50 (40000/420 *0.32) assuming you are in the 32% band. This equates $366 per year (this gets adjusted for inflation also, so it is same as $366 today). At your 4% withdrawal rate this has a value of $9150 at retirement. So if you are close to retirement, it is a no-brainer, pay the SET. As you get further from retirement then you have to discount by your after tax, after inflation rate of return.

    Obviously there are some risks to SS, it is a government program and rules can change. At the same time there are some advantages, this money can never be taken away in any sort of lawsuit, not even in divorce; and you don’t have to worry about stock market returns/crashes.

    So, I think if you already have significant investments in the stock market and property, then diversifying in SS is not a terrible way to go until you max out the 32% accumulation band.

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  • DIY Money Guy October 17, 2016, 10:36 am

    I am currently searching for a tax professional and remembered MMM had a post earlier this year about taxes. Well, here I found it along with the link to Keith’s blog. But I am saddened to share that it appears Keith recently passed away based on a posting on his blog. http://wealthyaccountant.com/2016/10/17/obituary-keith-schroeder-passed-away-saturday-night/

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    • Scott October 17, 2016, 12:43 pm

      I think he’s ok. You just need to read the entire article.

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    • The Wealthy Accountant October 18, 2016, 9:43 pm

      Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated! The obituary is the story leadoff and an important lesson to discover if you are living the life you want to be living. I promise to write more. It is not the end.

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      • DIY Money Guy October 19, 2016, 5:15 am

        Well that’s a little embarrassing on my part. Very happy to hear you are alive and well though! Being educated as an mechanical engineer I guess still tend to take stuff a little too literal and never have been good at reading between the lines of messages.

        Your article does have a very solid point though. Having experienced death of family and friends a little too much already in my relatively young age I strive to fully appreciate the friends and family around me don’t take any time for granted.

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        • The Wealthy Accountant October 20, 2016, 11:41 am

          Don’t forget to do the exercise, DIY. The purpose of the post was to get people to reflect from their faux deathbed on their life. By discovering regrets early in life you can take corrective actions. so you have no regrets when you make your real final exit.

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  • Brady January 30, 2017, 10:15 am

    Has there been a list compiled of new accountants willing to sign up for preparing people’s taxes after Keith’s firm was slammed “after about 12,000 inquiries”? I’d like to see if I can outsource my taxes this year, but want to make the decision responsibly.

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  • RM February 15, 2017, 11:51 pm

    I’m really disappointed to be writing this here, but I have to report that after ten months of working with Keith after reading this post, it has been an absolute train-wreck. The few times I could actually get Keith to speak with me, he seemed like a decent enough guy. The actual accounting service was anything but decent. Keith’s office missed several filings in my state and incurred over $750 worth of penalties (that they tried to appeal their way out of, but ultimately $300 of it stuck and despite promises to reimburse me for it for over a month, I haven’t seen one cent). Now, after having tried to amicably separate myself from Keith and Tax Prep and Accounting Services, I can’t get them to send me my records or the money owed for penalties– I can’t even get an email response! The LLC Keith talked me into forming has taxes due in 28 days, but I don’t have any of the year end documents from 2016. I’ve asked for them four times with no response. I have no idea what payments were made (and to what entities) for the fourth quarter of 2016. Money hs been randomly paid out from my business account to the IRS and state tax entity with no communication from Keith’s office. They paid my federal taxes twice one month because they lost the records of having filed them the first time. I sit awake at night worrying that my new accountant won’t be able to unravel the mess they have made. I’ve paid every bill that was ever sent, immediately.

    I’ve written to Keith at his work. I’ve written to him at his blog. I’ve written to his subordinates. Nothing. Silence. I’ve tried polite, firm, and demanding. No tone works. I’ve asked them to set their own deadlines for when it is reasonable to receive responses– nothing.

    I am sure that Keith gives top-tier service to his marquee client– but the person that is described here, and the person he purports to be on his blog are worlds apart from the face he has shown me.

    The thing I can’t comprehend is that I’ve given them every opportunity to be done with me– they’re obviously not equipped to handle a client in my state. I just want my documents so that I can move on. What could he possibly gain from ignoring all my requests and refusing to provide me with the last few things that will free us both of each other? Tomorrow I have to send a demand letter via certified mail and if I can’t get the documents I need to have my new accountant do my taxes, I’ll have find a lawyer to compel Keith to send them to me. The whole premise of this post, and of hiring Keith, was to reduce complexity and stress… but having him in my life has only added an immeasurable amount of both. I’ve been made sick by the whole experience.

    If you’re where I was a year ago and looking for an accountant: please, please find someone local who you can walk in and speak to face to face. The mask someone wears online is not necessarily who they really are– a painful lesson that I’m learning with every passing day. My business has been badly harmed by ever associating with Keith and his company. Please protect yourselves.

    I’ll respond here again if I ever manage to get the rest of my records or money owed from Keith.

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    • Mr. Money Mustache February 22, 2017, 3:57 pm

      Sorry to read all of this RM – I am forwarding your note directly to Keith and recommending that he take on far fewer clients. This was my hesitance in posting his contact info in the first place: tax accounting is a labor-intensive process, and any given firm should only take on a carefully-limited number of clients.

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      • RM February 22, 2017, 6:54 pm

        Thanks, MMM. I really, really appreciate it. I got an email from Keith’s firm within minutes of you posting this, I’m sure not coincidentally. They say my documents and check are on the way. As frustrating as the whole experience has been, I am glad to finally just put it behind me. Life is too short. Thank you again.

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  • James Gutschmidt May 16, 2017, 2:56 am

    I haven’t wasted my precious time filing a personal IRS 1040 since 1992. My income today is in the top 10 percent of the world at $1150 per month (social security). With that income I am not required to file a 1040. Life is great, and satisfying, especially since those insane bureaucrats aren’t getting any of my money. I’ve beaten taxes, next is the small task to beat death. When it happens, I’ll let you know how I did it. In the mean time, you might enjoy: “Times Fate? Walking on the Clouds” http://northokanogan.com/?paged=4

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  • Daphne Gilpin August 20, 2019, 12:21 pm

    It really made sense when you explained that our tax abilities need to grow alongside the income and complexity of our business. My brother started a small business recently that has grown to the point where he’s thinking of outsourcing some services. I’m glad I read your article because now I can encourage my brother to follow your advice and find a tax preparation company to hire!

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  • Stephanie January 16, 2020, 10:48 am

    Longtime reader here, finally working through some older posts…one additional point I don’t see in the comments above is that DIY taxes can be a great opportunity to really engage with your own finances. It was my own jumping off point into personal finance and since most people have fairly straightforward tax situations, DIY works very well (just like managing your own investments, low-cost index funds naturally). I’m biased because I have a side gig teaching people DIY taxes and providing a framework for how taxes work. Engagement with the topic is the first step on the road to knowledge and mastery.

    For people with more complex situations, hiring a pro is of course a great approach. So, if you need surgery, hire a surgeon. If you need to clean your cut and slap on a band aid…DIY!

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